Monday, January 23, 2012

Isn't it time we stopped playing against computers?

Kramnik recently lost to Deep Fritz.



Given the fact that it's only a matter of time before even grandmasters will not be able to beat the simplest chess programs, I think we've had our little experiment.



We need to get rid of computers now and focus on humans playing chess again. This game is ours. WE made it, and WE love it. Not computers. Computers don't give a damn about chess. What are we trying to prove when we play against the computer?



Chess was always about the thrill of meeting a mind across the board, a mind that played by the same rules. None of this matters with a computer. We should probably still use it for training in tactics, but we should not endorse World Champions like Kramnik playing chess against a computer. It demeans the game we all love. Do you agree?Isn't it time we stopped playing against computers?
I don't think that using computers demeans the game of chess. There is certainly something to be said for human opponents and their adaptability and flexibility. However, I don't view the chess matches between "Man and Machine" as a trial of human intelligence or as a trial of the game as a standard for intelligence (that can be debated elsewhere), but rather to see how far we've come in both computing power and compute science. We may've made the game but we also made the computers, and while the computer may not love chess, there's little doubt the programmer does! The computer in of itself is stupid; it's the programming behind the computer that makes it able to do anything including playing chess.



I do agree, however, that the contests have lost their novelty. I didn't even know about Deep Fritz whereas the Kasparov- Deep Blue matches were everywhere on the news. One thing that would be interesting to see is programmers try their hand at Go. Currently no computer program has any chance against most seasoned players let alone the top champions. It would be interesting to see if a concerted effort would create that powerful a computer program in Go.
Quite possibly. Our flaws is what helps define us as humans. Computers are all logic, how could they lose, lest a malfunction in the program.Isn't it time we stopped playing against computers?
You have put it very well. I agree with you! You should submit what you've said to a chess magazine or a newspaper that covers chess tournaments. I especially like that you said, "This game is ours." Actually, you express yourself so well, you might consider writing professionally. I'd read you! Nice job!
I like the fact that we are inventing these technologies, and I do not think it demeans the game. I was fascinated when Kasperov played Blue twice, and it's part of the reason I started studying chess. Chess provides an excellent platform for computer engineers to design artificial intelligence or to try new heuristics and algorithms. And the fact is that Grandmasters routinely beat the best chess computers. I think that indicates just how clever a game it really is. All this technology, and we still haven't cracked all the secrets of this game! Game on.Isn't it time we stopped playing against computers?
You're right. Though playing against computers may be fun at times, it's still better to play against human opponents. It just feels better.
I agree to a point. Ultimately playing with humans is better and more satisfying. However, as a method of testing out new computational techniques, grandmaster level chess does have something to offer.
No. Intelligent people learn from their mistakes. The point in playing against a stronger adversary is that it allows us to learn, to analyze where we erred, and to do better next time.

For the moment a chess computer is only as good as its programmer. It chooses a move based on instructions or principles programmed in its memory. If we could program a computer to learn from its mistakes - to figure out which former move led to its downfall in a game, and no longer use that move - it would grow stronger, as humans do, but I doubt that a computer will ever be able to make an intuitive leap in logic or "think outside the box".

Lessons learned from developing a computer that self-corrects itself in playing chess could be used in many industrial and commercial applications.

Technological advancement is the issue here. Computers are here to stay. We might as well develop them to their full potential.
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